I used to have several grails applications deployed on CloudBees. I liked the fact that they were Java all along, I liked the smooth integration between Jenkins CI and the deployment environment. I really liked the fact that you could hide an application behind a username and password during testing. I just hated their design (seriously guys, hire a good designer) and I was not thrilled by their catalog of third-party services. So when Heroku announced that they supported Java applications, and then Grails applications, it was not long before I migrated all my apps over to their servers.
But more recently, I’ve had issues with a more plugin-rich application. And tonight, after several weeks of fighting, I migrated this app to CloudBees for one general reason: Heroku was really designed with RoR in mind, and even though they made a new stack for java apps, the old rules still apply:
- if an application takes more than 60 seconds to boot, it is crashed. There is no way to adjust this timeout, and we all know that it can be pretty common for a java app to take a little more than that.
- another consequence of this slow boot intolerance is that an application is automatically put in sleep mode after several minutes of not being used. Consequence: when someone comes to the site after such a period, say, in the morning, the app is rebooted out of sleep mode… and sometimes it crashes again. Terrible for availability.
And apparently, even if you pay, there is no way to prevent that sleep behavior and to keep your app alive all the time.Actually to be fair, there is a way to disable idling: once you scale up to 2 dynos, idling is disabled.
- since your app can be sleeping, implementing long-running background processes is very complicated too. You have to use their worker processes, but there is no documentation on how to do that in a java application, let alone in a grails app.
- last but not least, even though I tried to limit the amount of memory of my app, it kept going over 512MB, which is the absolute limit. Once again no way to change that. It doesn’t crash my app, but it clutters my log with plenty of annoying warning messages.
That plus the fact that they refused to answer my last support request about memory consumption and marked it as solved when it got hard. The fact that they don’t have an easy continuous integration feature was not a deal breaker, but it adds to the rest.
Now I don’t know if CloudBees will be better on all these points, but it looks good on paper. Unfortunately, we java devs don’t have a lot of choice when it comes to cloud deployment. CloudFoundry is way too low-level, AppFog is still in private beta, and Amazon Elastic Beanstalk is awful for deployment (40MB take a long time to upload). What other options do we have that I’ve never heard of?